Can you fight for peace?

18 Responses to Can you fight for peace?

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   Arithrianos June 24, 2009 at 10:17 am #

   Fighting for peace will only bring more fighting, fighting WITH peace is the only way. Or as some cool dude called Buddha said hate never yet dispelled hate , only love dispels hate.
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   mydomainpvt June 24, 2009 at 10:20 am #

   dear mallika,

   beautiful question. samuel fabulous explanation.

   Wish you love, peace and happiness.

   Trisha
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   rishi June 24, 2009 at 10:41 am #

   Yes, we can fight against injustice. But violent protests may not be only the option. I often ask myself is there any action I can do which does only good? On further reflection, I found that there is no single action I can do which can only cause good. The only thing which matters is Intention behind my action. In Law, it is referred to motive behind a crime. In case of Iran, there is no other choice other than protest against oppression. The intention behind these protests are not for power of control but for freedom. But ultimately if these protests will really give the results the people of Iran are looking for is unpredictable as anything else in Life. As outside observers, I believe the only thing we could do is hold onto the Intention for peace.
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   Carmien June 24, 2009 at 11:22 am #

   Firstly, some spiritual principles that I live by:

   - God (Spirit/Infinite Mysteries/Mother-Father God) is the life in us and all living things

   - In God all things are possible

   - Nothing happens by chance

   - It is done to us as we believe

   - All conditions manifest from a Mental Cause (thinking/feeling)

   - The Law of Averages means that consciousness will play itself out when the above principles are not lived through the individual

   - Community consciousness is the result of many people thinking and feeling in a certain way, consciously or unconscously

   The above is important because what I write next is founded upon these principles. If you disagree with the above then you may disagree with what follows.

   In short my answer is, no.

   There is either love or an absence of love, just as the light is either on or there is darkness where there is an absense of light. I am either living the change I want to be (peace) or I am not. If I live through anger and fighting then I am perpetuating and contributing to a consciousness of anger. I cannot see such an action as contributing to the Greater Good.

   How we think and feel contributes to that which is around us. How we have thought in the past contributes to the conditions in the present. How we think today will contribute to the conditions of tomorrow. The anger, oppression and fear in the world today are a result of how we have individually and collectively been thinking to this moment. This is similar in what happens when a path in the forest is naturally trodden; a groove in the grass is formed and people become used to travelling that way. Neuroscience is showing that the more cells fire in certain way the more likely it will become that the same patterns will be followed. In short, as we become accustomed to behaving, thinking and feeling in a certain way we will build these 'grooves'. And if you can accept that how you think and feel (Mental Cause) influences what happens around you then you can perhaps draw this connection.

   Now perhaps you can see what I started with my spiritual principles as I did. You are either in agreement or you are not. But at least I warned you…

   To hear and see the scenes and experiences unfolding in Iran tug at my heart (as do so many other events around me and the world). The compassion in me is deeply moved. However, as I can only be the change I want to see I can but know that all those that are involved have what they need for the right and perfect outcome in this situation. I can also share this message, one of peace. I can live this message, one of peace.

   And when confronted with situations, where I personally find myself in such a condition I can take solace in the list of principles. God is in all things. There is an infinite mystery that is within me that I have a choice to tap into. Once I do that, I can know that there are no limitations. I can know that nothing happens by chance. Perhaps my role on this journey is to make this choice and hold to it, reminding others of these principles so that they in turn may contribute to raising consciousness. I can know that as I believe in my potential to work with the Infinite Mystery (often called God) means that those conditions that manifest around me will be influenced by my belief – nothing will be sent my way that I cannot handle. But then I have committed my life in service to helping others consider the above principles.

   Asking if we 'fight peace' is one of the great philosophical questions of past and current times. If I believe that God is in ALL things and that nothing happens by chance, then I must live life with acceptance that I might not understand why everything happens unfolds as it does, but there is a part of me that does. There is a part of me that knows that what we witness today is consciousness playing itself out. The only thing that remains to me is to consider what my choices will be and how I will think.

   Blessings, joy and peace my friends.
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   ElaineSpringer June 24, 2009 at 11:42 am #

   Yes, you can if you are willing to put your life on the line.

   The Supreme Leader did issue a warning. Reminds me of Kent State.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings

   Take action with Amnesty International -
   http://takeaction.amnestyusa.org/siteapps/advocac…
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   jiten51 June 24, 2009 at 11:54 am #

   Yes, of course, I will fight for peace, have done so for 30+ years here in U.K. Unfortunately a politicized campaign for peace may well have red-herrings attached to various layers of the clothing of the would-be sultan, fuhrer including our democratic wannabes.

   The only time I volunteered to fight was in the Six-day war, so we came out victorious. Both my elder brothers, now deceased, (younger one was killed in action in Kashmir war), had fought for the (ungrateful) England.

   So, in my campaign I name the lawyers, M.Ps, police, judges etc who, after colluding among themselves, tore apart my young family, usurped our house and have still not given-up after all these decades, still pursuing me on trumped-up charges, not losing once. The Brits-side has had total changes of personnel but none, in any generation, takes me up in court for libel and slander.

   So, the Brits 'rescued' one of their kind, a white damsel, my wife, but it took them nearly six years to convince her that am a 'violent father and husband'. I was amazed to discover that the British Jewry was heavily involved in this operation, their kingpin was Nathan Miller, South Africa-born and bred lawyer, settled in U.K, was a Jew – not the only one.

   Jiten Bardwaj
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   ekazal June 24, 2009 at 12:14 pm #

   Fighting is not the answer. Do we even know what are we fighting for?

   Support, yes. I'm all for it.

   However, look within yourself for the basis of your reasoning. Are you basing your decision on someone else's perspective? On one side of the story? In haste? On some prejudice?

   Your actions, one way or another, effect our world. I ask that you be mindful and consider not just yourself, but each one of us, as we are all cohabitants in this space and time.

   Thoughtfully,

   Elaine
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   rajeshmsharma June 24, 2009 at 12:19 pm #

   Peace is love, bliss. happiness. samadhi.

   Arms and ammunition of peace is love, bliss, happiness.

   Mahatma Gandhi and Nelson Mandela are the examples who showed the way to fight for peace.

   Fight for peace needs calm, patience, awareness, consciousness, preserverance, egoless, spreading the words of peace.

   Love

   Rajesh
   http://rajeshmsharma.blogspot.com
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   Gregory K. Cadotte June 24, 2009 at 12:27 pm #

   You cannot struggle to relax. You cannot fight for peace. We struggle for one things be using its opposite. How can love come from hate? These are powerful questions- what to do? How to approach such things successfully? I can only say that love produces love and hate produces hate and fighting ends in war and death. To grow a park we must plant grass and trees, not form walls of wire and bury exploding devices.

   But who am I to say such things. I simply wonder out loud.

   Gregory K. Cadotte

   The Secret to Effortless Existence
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    PaulGopal June 24, 2009 at 2:39 pm #

    Anyone who has not written a letter, please consider writing a letter to Iran via Amnesty International today.

    http://www.amnestyusa.org

    E mail from Amnesty International, Wed 6/24/09 :

    The world has watched with shock and a profound sense of dismay the scenes of bloody, rampant violence that have filled the streets of Tehran and other cities in the wake of Iran's hotly contested presidential elections.

    But behind the scenes, Iranian authorities are conducting a simultaneous effort aimed at silencing dissident voices through arbitrary arrests and detention.

    Plain clothes Iranian security officials have arrested leading human rights activist Abdolfattah Soltani and have rounded up countless other students, opposition politicians, journalists and rights activists and thrown them in prison.

    Soltani has for years stood by individuals who have suffered repression in Iran. And by putting himself in the line of fire, he too has become a target of the Iranian government's brutal repression.

    Amnesty first took up Soltani's case in 2005, when he was arrested for representing other victims of human rights violations. Since then, Soltani has endured both imprisonment and solitary confinement for bravely challenging repression and demanding respect for human rights in Iran.

    But thanks in part to letters from Amnesty supporters, he was released on bail in 2006 and acquitted in 2007 of the fabricated charges against him.

    The Iranian government is doing everything in its power to crush the spirit of resistance that has challenged its authority.

    Its aim is not only to silence rights defenders like Soltani through imprisonment, but create a chilling effect to discourage others from standing up for human rights.

    We can't let that happen. Please call on authorities in Iran today and demand Soltani's immediate release.

    By doing so, you'll help counter the climate of fear instilled by Iranian authorities with a spirit of hope.

    What's more is that you'll be sending a vital message of solidarity to Soltani and other human rights defenders like him, reminding them that they are not alone.

    Thank you for standing with human rights defenders in Iran –

    Elise, Zahir, Christoph and the rest of the Iran crisis response team
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    empyrius June 24, 2009 at 2:42 pm #

    This is why American war-profiteers never fear peace shall impede profits, b/c they know there are always "just" causes that can also co-opt the "peaceful" leftists.

    But that is ok because we have legions of unemployed and already conquered who are eager to fight for "the American Way".

    Transformers engage!

    It all seems to make sense now . . .

    Empyrius!
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    Dominic June 24, 2009 at 2:53 pm #

    Just the word fight is fighting…bring yourself to a subjective reality and leave dualistic thinking to ego…when you surrender to yourself the Universe surrenders to you and peace is achieved.

    No judgements have ever won for anyone as the world continues to suffer the desire of an objective reality that ego loves.

    If everyone judges everyone else, and the whole world is placed in jail or dead. Where is the last person that judges go when he is the judge….

    Peace in an inner world(+)

    Dom
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    Muktabai June 24, 2009 at 5:26 pm #

    I don't believe you can fight for peace. I do believe you can persevere for Peace. I also believe that in a way, the Iranian freedom seekers have already won because they have acted with fearlessness. The Iranian leadership is acting from a place of fear because no on strikes a blow unless they feel threatened. In this sense, the leadership has already lost.

    In much of the world's eyes, Iran's government has already lost; they have lost the respect of the international community and their brave citizens have won our respect, support and solidarity.

    As for those of us who are looking on with an impulse to help in some way, we can speak out in support of the Iranian freedom seekers through all forms of media. And most importantly, we can hold a place in our hearts, our prayers and our intentions that our brothers and sisters prevail in their quest for freedom.

    May we all know peace,

    In Peace, Love and Laughter

    Linda M
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    Maggie June 24, 2009 at 10:23 pm #

    You can get committed to peace, dedicate your life to the propagation and promotion of peace. In vernacular language you "fight for peace". But on the other hand only peace can end real fighting.

    There is an effective means to end fighting by using the tool of peace: meditation – which dissolves societal stress, including acute political, ethnic, and religious tensions which directly fuel social violence, such as crime, terrorism, and war. There are more than fifty scientific studies, published in leading scientific journals, that have found that group practice of the Transcendental Meditation programme is an effective approach for reducing stress and promoting health
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    Rouzanna Vardanyan June 24, 2009 at 10:39 pm #

    Why fight in the name of such ephemeral concepts as peace and justice? Fighting or confronting is always violence in thoughts feelings and dids. In return it always brings violence. The concept of justice arises, when people violate laws of nature due to excesive ego, and need justification for it. When the practice of such violation becomes widely spread, the very concept becomes distorted, because everybody violating the laws of nature wants justification for that, moreover, wants aquittance. So, justice becomes a bubble gum, stretched in all different directions. This I understand as fighting for justice. At one point the gum falls appart, and there are people, standing stunned: they were wrestling for a concept that disappeared. Did it ever exist?
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    rajeshmsharma June 25, 2009 at 2:21 am #

    Wow what great replies here. Only intent.com can produce such beauties for peace. Reading these is Nirvana itself.

    Thanks all.

    Reading these beautiful comments gives me complete pleasure of Nirvana, Samadhi

    Love

    Rajesh
    http://rajeshmsharma.blogspot.com
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    DreamMasterQ July 1, 2009 at 12:07 pm #

    fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity!

    PEACE beyond all over-standing
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