Out of Body or Out of Mind?

By on July 26, 2009 in Spirituality

 







 

As an angst-ridden teenager in dire straits, I suddenly found myself hovering over my body as it lay on a single bed, grievously frightened and facing certain “death”.  

While this may read like the opening sentence in a fictional work, it is actually the result of a difficult personal recollection of a predicament which occurred many years ago.  My intention here is not to tell you a story, but to ask for your feedback concerning Out of Body experiences.

While my memory of this experience has faded with time, my ability to visualize the detachment of my mind from my body has not. It is more a sense of traveling through other planes in another time than anything else. Dreamlike, but with a certain amount of control involved, like driving a vehicle though space and time for the sole pleasure of it. I feel a unified connection to pure energy in a landscape-like setting, while not feeling embodied in any Being.  In fact, I encounter no Beings on these trips.

Have you ever had an Out of Body experience?

I would be very interested in hearing any related thoughts and/or experiences you may have encountered in your life that you would be willing to share. I’d also be interested in any books or material which you could recommend that might shed more light on this subject.

Lovingly, openingly and gratefully,

Elaine K

 

 

 

 
 
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11 Responses to Out of Body or Out of Mind?

  1. ardverk July 27, 2009 at 4:10 am #

    That's interesting Elaine and Super frog. Elaine, you suggest that your first was an NDE or near death experience. Super frog, did you ever have an NDE that you can remember, given that it may have occurred in your mother's womb.

    I am fascinated though I can't say I have direct experience of actual out of body being recorded by my in body senses. (contradiction?)

    I have an inkling that these experiences are 'third eye' function and that pineal gland is the 'switching device.' Pineal is definitely instrumental in the 'going to sleep at night' of all of us, naturally speaking. For one, it secretes melatonin when eyes no longer receive daylight (or its equivalent?) But it also secretes DMT, prominent in the OBEs brought on in Shamanic ceremony with Ayaheschua, (sp) LSD is also known to stimulate the pineal. I'm inclined to believe that the pineal is our 'gateway' to other dimensions….that its function has suffered under this world of materialists!

    I must fly now ;)

    Love

    ed

  2. ekazal July 27, 2009 at 6:55 am #

    SuperFrog, WOW! You've surpassed anything I have experienced, I must say.

    My OBEs are gentle, comfortable and exploratory. They often come just before sleep but I can fall into them at will, if I'm in a high, good energy state, as they do require energy.

    Paralysis is something I'll have to think about on my next OBE trip. I don't feel anything of my body, which is, I suppose, paralysis! I definitely feel the tingling as I relax my body pre-flight, but I don't tremble.

    It's interesting that yours come on during the day, on their own. If I lay down for a nap, and I'm in the right state of joy, I'll slip away. Do yours come unwantedly?

    I have to thank you for being so open and honest with me and us. I have not discussed these episodes with anyone in any sort of depth. I also haven't seen any reference to OBEs on this site, although a wonderful friend of mine has told me of hers. We are both interested in learning more about these experiences. So many questions, like can OBEs be useful for more than just play? Can one travel about and gather information? Act as an angel or a guide? I believe that I have the ability, but not the knowledge, to accomplish many great things from the comfort of my own home, where I spend most of my time.

    Lovingly and Super gratefully,

    Elaine K

  3. ekazal July 27, 2009 at 7:47 am #

    Ed, Hello, my friend. My first OBE was a NDE, but my first NDE precluded this particular memory.

    At 10 months of age, was very ill with a virus and stopped breathing. My doctor Dad tried to revive me via a tracheotomy performed in a fast moving van during the 20 mile drive to the hospital, but didn't have the correct tools to complete the incision. Once at the hospital, I was incubated and obviously survived the ordeal.

    While I have no memory of this incident, I have felt throughout my life as though I knew things that others didn't. This led me to seek out many different areas of thought, modalities, experiments and such.

    I have to agree with your belief about the gateway, although I'm less educated about the medical specificity. I am familiar with the LSD experience and that is indeed a pathway through the gate.

    I just read a fascinating article in the August 2009 issue of "The Sun Magazine", whose theme appears to be "accessing the spiritual". It's an interview with Stanislav Grof entitled "On Nonordinary States of Consciousness", by Angela Winter. Without going into the details, Stanislav Grof is the father of "holotropic breathwork", a drug-free method of exploring nonordinary states of consciousness. His early research with LSD in Europe and in the States included a fellowship with John Hopkins University, a position as "the chief of psychiatric research at the Maryland Psychiatric Research Center where he headed a one of the last official psychedelic studies in the United States" and a scholar-in-residence at the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California.

    If you're interested, you can access this article later this month at http://www.thesunmagazine.org.

    I'll let you fly, my friend, and not bog you down with any more of my endless pursuits.

    For now, at least.

    Love always,

    Elaine K

  4. ardverk July 27, 2009 at 9:12 am #

    For myself, Elaine, I don't really trust artificial means, that is. 'sledgehammer' substances! I fear that one might destroy the extreme sensitivity required to truly find oneself. As a Cap, I'm in for the distance. However, Pluto is on my back now! Anything can happen :) )

    I had a choking experience myself at 3years of age. I vaguely remember signing off, but my mother slapped me about a bit and, when that didn't work, dunked me in ice-cold water! It is the basis of 'my one foot in the grave' statement to many who mostly get concerned that I am saying it's terminal! I'm really saying that I never closed that gateway that opened when I was choked. Other than that, I find it very hard to communicate just where Iam coming from.

    What I will say here is that we all cling to, perhaps an inculcated, materialism, and that the way we experience an OBE will be an amalgam of that and the 'scary' infinite potential we are stepping into.

    I do actually believe we are being RE-introduced, to what we as conceptions brought into this plane. OBEs have been the tap on the shoulder, surely over millennia, particularly for those with chinks in the 'gateway,' contrived or natural.

    Just as pilots had to experience crashing in order to fly successfully through the sound barrier, the 'time' is now ripe for something similar with our Consciousness barrier. An OBE will have set us up nicely. '2012' here we come! ;)

    Hugs,

    ed

  5. ekazal July 28, 2009 at 6:26 am #

    Hi Ed, I like the idea of Grof's Holotropic Breathwork, which allows the body/mind to enter a "non-ordinary state of consciousness". No drugs involved. Pretty interesting stuff. His site is http://www.holotropic.com/
    I'm going to investigate further.

    Apparently many people have OBEs but I don't hear them speak about them. Perhaps now I'll start hearing about them everywhere. Life's like that.

    I wonder what percentage of OBErs have had a NDE? I also wonder if many people experience a NDE in the birthing process? I wonder about so many things. Hmmm. Keeps my brain agile.

    My gateway's always open.

    Love,

    Elaine K

  6. ekazal July 28, 2009 at 6:43 am #

    SuperFrog, I'll have to look more into the practice of lucid dreaming. I have a book around somewhere that I read some time ago. I'm sure there's plenty on the internet, as well.

    My dreams are very creative, sort of like independent films. The other night I had a dream where an old acquaintance from high school appeared, and wouldn't you know I got a request on Facebook yesterday to be his friend. I'm making quite a few spiritual/psychic connections and loving it! This has become much more prominent since I started engaging in intent.com. I call it "Connecting the Dots".

    I'm curious about the part of the dream that I'm having when unconscious. I must be missing the first act. I must admit that my dream life is much more intriguing than my waking life. It's all the same, though, as far as I'm concerned.

    Great thinking with you, my friend.

    Lovingly,

    Elaine K

  7. ardverk July 28, 2009 at 7:39 am #

    Ha, Elaine, Vern Woolf and his:-

    http://www.holodynamics.com/

    is more to my liking at this point in time.

    I will take a look at your lead.

    Love,

    ed

  8. Brigit September 1, 2009 at 5:20 am #

    Elaine,

    I haven't quite to this degree, but I know people in the metaphysical community who learn to deliberately "astrally project" or to have part of their souls leave their body temporarily to journey into the astral and/or spiritual planes of existence, and I read in a book by–I think it might have been by Larry Dossey though I don't remember for sure–about a woman who had an OBE whilst she was under anesthesia for surgery and correctly reported back details about the doctors, etc.–which one was wearing what, etc., or who had said what.

    I don't think that people who have OBEs are necessarily out of their minds at all. You seem like a pretty sane person to me–don't question yourself too much. As long as they're not doing you or anyone else any harm, your experiences are valid. If they help you, trust them.

    Hugs,

    Brigit

  9. Super frog September 27, 2009 at 1:15 am #

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  10. ardverk September 27, 2009 at 2:00 am #

    What's up, superfrog?

  11. Super frog September 27, 2009 at 9:17 am #

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